Natural Birth

trusting the process of childbirth

Natural Birth Welcome Post
Welcome to the Natural Birthing Community!
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In this community, we consider the definition of natural childbirth to be a labor that begins spontaneously and does not involve the use of medication or intervention during the birth process.

This community is for anyone supportive of natural pregnancy and childbirth. We are pro-breastfeeding, supportive of homebirth, unassisted birth, birth center and natural hospital birth. We encourage members to take charge of the choices and management of their health care.

Pregnancy and childbirth are normal aspects of the life cycle. There is much to be learned by listening to ourselves and our bodies during childbearing.

Posts relating to natural family living are welcome within the community, in addition to those addressing TTC, pregnancy, childbirth, postpartum and breastfeeding.

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Sweetening the Pill - a documentary by Abby Epstein and Ricki Lake
Might be interesting to natural birthers, and they need backing urgently.

Filmmakers Ricki Lake and Abby Epstein will investigate our current and future choices for contraception in this feature documentary

inviting people to the birth?
winter frost
Hi all, I am pregnant with my second child and planning my second homebirth. Last time it was just my husband and I and the midwives, so this time I would like to invite our close family (our moms and my sister-in-law). I am putting together a list of things for them to consider before deciding to come to the birth, like "You will need to do what the midwives ask without question." What would you put on this list?

Suggestions needed for a friend in labour please!
Hello I just received a message from a friend who is interested in having a natural birth. Please note this is happening in Sweden. Here is the message:

Been in labor for more than 24 hrs and made great progress until 3:30am this morning. Then things slowed down and became irregular again. Went to hospital for check up this morning and sent home with some meds to help me rest. Contractions are powerful but progress not great. We have been out walking. Any other suggestions of what I can do to get things moving? I don't want to land up too tired to deliver this baby...


Thanks in advance!

Natural birth and Diastatis Recti
Hello everyone,

I'm pregnant with my second.

During my first pregnancy my stomach muscles separated and never really came back together. I pushed for over 5 hours before the baby was finally out (after a doctor was called and assisted me with a vacuum).

I was hoping to be able to push the baby out unassisted this time, but reading about abdomen muscle separation it seems it makes pushing quite a bit more difficult. It might even be the reason it went down that way for me the first time around.

My question is rather specific but I'm eager to ask it anyway...

Has anyone here had muscle separation with one pregnancy and a difficulty to push and went on to push without issues in subsequent pregnancies?

cross posted from due date community
So we didn't want an ultrasound this time, and i told myself we wouldn't get one unless medically indicated. Well, then i gained 10lbs in a month and measured 4 weeks ahead. 22cm at 18w.

I said i wanted one but now am thinking of at least waiting one more month and seeing if that growth stays steady, picks up even more drastically, or slows down to be more where it should be.

third baby, never measured ahead before, either time. ugh. if only we didn't have to pay for the u/s out of pocket.

plus, i'm scared i'll lose my resolve about being surprised if someone's already in there poking around. i've seen enough of those things that if a winky went by on the screen, i'm sure i'd know what i was looking at.

advice welcome i guess. but be nice.

Birth Story
My second baby, Madeleine Joy, was born on November 23rd into my hands.

I wanted to share my birth story here.  I'm no writer and I certainly haven't had time to edit so please ignore my mistakes. :)

Homebirth Birth Plans
Chesire Cat
Does anybody have a home birth, birth plan that they would be able to share with me, or direct me to?

I had a birth centre birth with my first son, I did have a birth plan but I can't find it anywhere on my laptop.

I will be having a doula as well, if that makes any difference!

Thanks ! 

List of Affirmations
I'm 35.5 weeks w/ my second.  This will be my 2nd homebirth.  My midwife has asked me to come up with 2 lists.  The first she called a list of "affirmations"; birth positive messages that might mean something to me during labor.  Can y'all help me with that?  Anything that stuck out to you during labor?  Links?

The second list she wanted was a list of "expectations" for each person who will be present at the birth.  For sure, it will be midwife, her assistant, my husband, and my nearly 3 year old son.  It will possibly include my MIL & FIL, whom we have invited to help watch our son, if necessary.  Can you help me out with this too?  I don't want to sound bossy in the "expectations" or anything but she is right it is better to be clear about what I am wanting from everyone.  What would have been on your list or what did you tell your birth attendants & others present about your expectations?


Birth class advice
LA Birthday pic
Hi everyone. I've been a long time member but haven't posted in years. My husband and I are expecting our first baby and I need some advice on preparation for the birth. I've read some of the archived post on birth classes but none of them totally answered my questions. We're planning a natural birth in a hospital with midwives. We're also planning to hire a doula but haven't found one yet.

A little about me: I'm an ob-gyn resident (in training) so I regularly work 60-70 hrs/week and don't have much flexibility in my work hours. I usually work every other weekend. I know a lot about the physiology of birth, but I need instruction on coping with pain. Hubby will be unemployed as of next week, knows nothing about birth, and is very supportive and will pretty much do whatever I suggest. His only concern is the cost of the class.

Bradley- This philosophy appeals the most to me. I'm fairly athletic and I like to think of preparing for birth like preparing for an endurance event. The downsides are that the nearest class is about an hour away, it is the most expensive of our options, and would require me to beg/trade shifts with my co-workers to let me out of work by a certain time once a week. Is it really worth the effort/cost?

Hyponobabies/birthing- There is a hypnobirthing class near us or we could do the hypnobabies self study. I have seen excellent results with these classes. Self-study would be extremely convenient for me. However, I worry that my knowledge and experience with birth may make it harder for me self-hypnotize.

Birthing from within- This is probably the most convenient class for us to attend, in terms of price/time commitment. There is someone who offers it condensed into a single Saturday and the pricing is extremely reasonable. However, I wonder how much I would actually benefit from a single day class.

Any advice is appreciated!

43 weeks + advice appreciated.
ruby's birth!
Hi, I am not on LJ so my friend has loaned me her account to post.

I am presently 43 weeks and 1 day pregnant and confused about what my options are now. I have been planning a homebirth and since my first was quite overdue also (42 weeks + 3 days) this time around added as many days possible to my due date to give me time to birth at home before my MW is not being able to see me after '42' weeks. I thought I was being super generous adding 9 days but unfortunately even that time frame is ending tomorrow and my mw is required to consult at our local hospital and will not be 'allowed' to see me at home following that. She would attend me at the hospital though.

I know I can decline to attend a consult at the hospital and decline an induction (which I am sure they will be offering) but at this stage I am really down about my options and what I should do. I guess in part I am concerned about being so post-term (but only in theory). Baby is moving very well, HR has been fine etc - I feel like they are doing okay but the idea of being 43 + weeks pregnant does worry me (and my husband).

I imagine at the hospital they will give me a scan to check fluids, placenta etc and I am almost sure they will be concerned about the baby's size given my last was over 10lbs and this one has been baking for even longer! I imagine I will be advised to either have an immediate induction or c/s (if baby is measuring bigger - which wouldn't surprise me). I can decline any intervention and be monitored daily and birth at the hospital when my body naturally goes into labor (but part of me IS worried about when that might happen given it has already been 43 weeks?). I can also decline to go to the hospital at all.

Here are any details I can think of.

My mw did a sweep yesterday but hasn't had any effect as yet.
Baby is not currently engaged and is posterior (my last was posterior till very end of labor).
I have had acupuncture and chiropractic adjustments
I am feeling very physically and mentally exhausted - I did not expect to ever get to this stage of pregnancy!
Have tried all the usual things sex, nipple stimulation, walking etc
I have had no mucus loss.
One week ago I had around 6 hours of regular, mild contractions which felt just like the beginning of labor with my last but they just died out.
The same again two nights ago.

At this stage I am hoping for some other opinions about how others might proceed. I am feeling disappointed and disillusioned that my time for a homebirth is running out and feel like I'll never actually meet our baby! I am also looking for anyone who has gone to 43 or more weeks and experiences with that. I just don't know if there is a date I should draw the line at or simply just wait it out assuming baby is doing well (but how fast can that decline?). I feel very confused and advice would be gratefully appreciated.

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